{"id":1817259,"date":"2023-07-13T10:52:07","date_gmt":"2023-07-13T14:52:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/?p=1817259"},"modified":"2023-07-13T10:54:38","modified_gmt":"2023-07-13T14:54:38","slug":"geographical-on-the-nyc-subway-map-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/2023\/07\/geographical-on-the-nyc-subway-map-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Geographical on the NYC Subway Map Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/geographical.co.uk\/culture\/untangling-new-york-subway\"><em>Geographical<\/em> magazine has a short history of the New York City subway map and its controversies<\/a>. This has been a fraught and hotly contested topic for most of the last 50 years, and Jules Stewart\u2019s article can\u2019t go into nearly enough depth to capture it all, but it could serve as a decent entry point for those not in the know. Drawing rather heavily on the expertise of Peter Lloyd (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/2019\/12\/a-naive-look-at-new-yorks-subway-map\/\">previously<\/a>), Stewart covers the subject from the first subway maps to where the MTA goes from here.<\/p>\n<p>Previously: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/2019\/12\/a-naive-look-at-new-yorks-subway-map\/\">A Na\u00efve Look at New York\u2019s Subway Map<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Geographical magazine has a short history of the New York City subway map and its controversies. This has been a fraught and hotly contested topic for most of the last 50 years, and Jules Stewart\u2019s&hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/2023\/07\/geographical-on-the-nyc-subway-map-debate\/\">More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"link","meta":{"autoblue_enabled":true,"autoblue_custom_message":"","autoblue_shares":[],"autoblue_post_url":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[94],"tags":[54,194,1486,1392,1219],"class_list":["post-1817259","post","type-post","status-publish","format-link","hentry","category-transit","tag-cities","tag-new-york-city","tag-subways","tag-tauranac","tag-vignelli","post_format-post-format-link"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1787813,"url":"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/2019\/09\/the-new-york-subway-map-gets-more-rethinking\/","url_meta":{"origin":1817259,"position":0},"title":"The New York Subway Map Gets More Rethinking","author":"Jonathan Crowe","date":"24 September 2019","format":"link","excerpt":"John Tauranac is having second thoughts. 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It also promises, says Fast Company\u2019s Mark Wilson, to bridge the long-standing\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Transit&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Transit","link":"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/category\/transit\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"Screenshot of NYC Live Subway Map (MTA)","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maproomblog.com\/xq\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/mta-live-subway-map-1024x576.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maproomblog.com\/xq\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/mta-live-subway-map-1024x576.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maproomblog.com\/xq\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/mta-live-subway-map-1024x576.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maproomblog.com\/xq\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/mta-live-subway-map-1024x576.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":1805639,"url":"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/2021\/12\/more-on-the-new-york-subway-map-debate\/","url_meta":{"origin":1817259,"position":3},"title":"More on the New York Subway Map Debate","author":"Jonathan Crowe","date":"9 December 2021","format":"link","excerpt":"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=p8OfC07sI8E This roundtable discussion about The New York Subway Map Debate, a book about the April 1978 Cooper Union debate over the design of the New York subway map (previously) and related subjects, featuring John Tauranac himself (who participated in the 1978 debate), alerted me to the fact that an\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Transit&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Transit","link":"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/category\/transit\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/p8OfC07sI8E\/0.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":1791889,"url":"https:\/\/www.maproomblog.com\/2021\/10\/the-new-york-subway-map-debate\/","url_meta":{"origin":1817259,"position":4},"title":"The New York Subway Map Debate","author":"Jonathan Crowe","date":"13 October 2021","format":"link","excerpt":"Back in 1978, Massimo Vignelli and John Tauranac debated the future of New York\u2019s subway map. 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